Lastnight my friend Tricia and I went to see Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire. We really enjoyed it. It was visually fascinating, and I’ve enjoyed watching Harry, Ron, and Hermione grow up and into themselves. Once again it was plain for me to to see the Christian parallels and lessons that can be pulled out of the story. I can’t wait for Benny to see it so we can discuss it. It was an enjoyable experience with the exception of one thing. The family sitting behind us. A mother brought her young son (Maybe 4 years old) and he was scared during several of the intense and/or scary scenes. Tricia isn’t a mother, but she agreed with me that the movie was totally inappropriate for young children. Even the movie ratings system says so, not that you can trust that all the time. This poor little boy didn’t outright cry, but he kept whining that things on the screen were scary and though I couldn’t see him, I’m sure he was hiding his eyes quite a bit. I can think of atleast 10 things in the movie that would stress my six year old out, if not totally freak him out and give him nightmares for weeks. My child is not a sissy, but he’s very tenderhearted and doesn’t handle seeing people/animals get hurt very well – and I’m glad. Every time there was a tense moment, my frustration with this mother grew. It was obvious to everyone within a 10 seat radius that this little boy should have been taken out of the theater, but ofcourse what can you say to a parent about it? It was HER decision to make.
I had a discussion with a friend this summer who wanted to know if Max had seen Batman Begins yet. I was surprised and told her no – and he wasn’t going to until he was older. She had taken another friend’s little boy – same age as Max, and he loved it. Though Benny and I loved it, we didn’t feel it was age appropriate for Max. The scarecrow alone would have caused nightmares. We discussed how Max is tenderhearted and she suggested that what he can’t handle maybe another 5 year old could. After much thought, I totally disagree. The movie was NOT made for children even though the merchandise was marketed to them. Max got most of the Batman Begins weapons for his birthday and he loves them. He didn’t have to see the movie to enjoy them. He has seen Batman cartoons, so he kind of knows how they are used – to help people. We have rules at our house about weapons because we also have real ones used in martial arts. We have been known to keep him from certain cartoons and t.v. shows because they were too violent or contained questionable material for his young mind.
On another occasion, I was upset when Max came home from a friend’s house in Wichita and told me all about the movie Spiderman. We had decided that it was too intense for him to watch just yet, especially because of the green goblin and the blood, yet my neighbor lets her kids watch whatever they want and assumed I did the same. We had a talk and she agreed that in the future she’d check with me first before letting the boys watch a movie.
I also remember early in our marriage going to see Jurassic Park, another movie made for adults but marketed to kids. There was a mother with two small children who cried through part of the movie because they were scared. This mother kept slapping them and telling them to be quiet so she could watch the movie. Looking back I wish I would have said something to her – especially about the hitting – and Benny was probably surprised that I didn’t. Instead I think I just shook my head in disgust and tried to ignore them all because what else could I do? Some people are just idiots.
I have a huge problem with marketing to kids in general – they don’t have the buying power, or the common sense to check things out and make informed decisions. Movie memorabilia is no exception.
I think whether or not a movie is appropriate is up to the parent, and the movie rating system is just a GUIDELINE. However, there has to be some responsibility exercised here. Movies that are made for adults are NOT appropriate for children, regardless of their age. A six year old should not be sitting in a PG-13 or R movie. It got that rating for a reason. Have we forgotten that PG stand for “Parental guidance suggested”? Where’s the guidance in that? And also, the rating system has changed so much over the years. What was once considered to be rated R is now PG-13. Then there was the addition of the rating NC-17. Come on people. Do I really want to exercise that “freedom of choice” at the expense of desensitizing my children to things that SHOULD scare and horrify them? Should I let my kids watch a movie just because “they can handle it”? I don’t think so. Not everything they Can do is beneficial for them.
We try to check out movies on www.screenit.com before letting our kids watch them. The website isn’t a movie review, it tells you about any cussing, nudity, disrespectful attitudes, violence, blood/gore, intense scenes, etc. We also ask friends who have already seen the movie in question. We try to be well-informed and if we still wonder, we see it before letting Max see it.
We want to take Max to see The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe. We’ve been reading the book with him and we borrowed the BBC version from the library and Benny watched it with the kids lastnight while Tricia and I were at the theater. (We saw them a few years ago and knew they were o.k. – if not a bit slow.) Anyway, we have heard from a few people about the intenseness of the battle scene and the stone table scene. We also read a review that said those scenes might be a bit intense for a 7 or 8 year old. Max knows what happens, but will the moviemaking magic frighten him or put him on edge? We’ve already decided to see it first before allowing Max to go, but I’m interested to hear from you what you think about these scenes? I’ve already solicited the opinion of a friend who took his daughter to see it, and I’m waiting to hear from him. I’d like to hear your thoughts on this…
AMEN, sister! I totally agree about the movies marketed to kids that are totally inappropriate for them. Our youngest is almost six, and we have kept him from many a movie his same-aged friends have already seen.
We are going to see Lion, Witch and the Wardrobe after my dh gets off work this Friday, and we are trying to decide whether we need to take our son. After I heard the people who produced it on Focus on the Family, and they made the warning for the under seven crowd — it got me to wondering whether we need to let our little guy go. We check movies on Pluggedinonline.com
through Focus on the Family. I’ll have to check your link, too.
I think with this movie, Niki, you need to pray and ask the Lord to reveal what Max can handle, and follow His leading. It is good to preview it, which you are doing– if you are in doubt. Hope ya’ll enjoy it. We sure are looking forward to it.
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I totally agree with you! I have an 8 yr old and I am very careful what she sees. I would not dream of letting her watch Harry Potter or Batman Begins. She would have such bad nightmares and it just isn’t necessary. She will grow up soon enough and be able to watch these movies.
My husband and I will have to watch L W and W but are thinking that she will not see it. Her Dad read her several of the books in the series but stopped because they were becoming too intense for her. God made us the parents for a reason and it is our duty to be sure our kids can handle what is put in their heads.
Recently, I returned a book to the school library because it just was not appropriate for an 8 yr old. The Librarian was polite but pointed out it was a true story and I said that may be but it is still inappropriate for little kids (It was about them starving the Elephants in the zoo during WWII because they were afraid the zoo would be bombed and the animals would escape) So stick to your guns and continue to make those good decisions about what your kids see!
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I thought LW,and W was a really cute movie… but I’m 20, and really have no idea how a 6 year old would react. I don’t think the fight scene was that bad, but the white witch was REALLY creepy. Of course, I’m not a parent, so I’m not sure why i’m leaving my two cents here, but i agree with MAK… your kids grow up fast anyway, why make it go even quicker… there’s plenty of time for movies when they get older (for instance during finals week of college when you want to do ANYTHING except study 😉 ) Good luck with the decisions. Hope you have an awesome week!
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I saw the movie twice this weekend; it’s outstanding and rich. TMK was just asking me about the intensity of it for her kids, so reading your blog was very similar to a conversation I just had. I appreciate parents like you and those responding here for being good to your kids and keeping them from inappropriate material (especially due to age).
I could see the movie scaring kids under the age of 10. While they’d probably enjoy it, the life-likeness of the animals, especially the bad-guy wolves, could be haunting. And the lady who plays the witch does a superb job; she’s an outstanding actress, but I’d hate to meet her in an dark alley or in an open field. She’s wicked.
Hope you and Benny enjoy the experience; I’m confident y’all will make the best decision about it for Max and whether in a few weeks or months or years, when he does watch it, it will be a thrilling, rich experience.
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I wanted to add the email I sent about LWW here on your comments. I agree with you that Soooooo many movies marketed to kids have content that children are just not ready for. But I guess that is why they call it marketing.
Here were my comments:
I must say that Andrew Adamson did a maginifcent job of protecting children from the most intense moments of the film.
The battle is truthfully handled in such a way she never seemed stressed during it. She was stressed a few other times. The wolves holding the fox in his mouth bothered her a little, and about the stone table. AA cuts away to the White Witch’s face and then to Lucy’s Face while the knife is being plunged into Aslan. All in all I don’t think he could have handled these scenes any better than he did.
I would have no problem recomending the movie to other parents of young children.
Adding Here:
I was ready to walk out of the movie if it was troubling my daughter. If you are not ready to give up the $25 for the tickets… don’t go.
She had no problems.
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I would like to commend you for being so careful–little eyes and ears do need to be protected!
Have you seen it yet? What did you decide?
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THANK YOU!!!!
nothing puts me on a soapbox faster than when i see parents disregard their roles as such.
i appreciate you for your parenting practices, for your willingness to share such things with the world, for your deep desire to do what is best for your children — not just what happens to be convenient. you are a great example to others. let that LIGHT shine!
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I really appreciate everyone sharing their thoughts on this. Especially Kevin, the above mentioned friend who took his little girl. So thanks for getting back to me so quickly Kevin!
I am grateful for the support from you parents and yet-to-be-parents alike!
After much talk, review, and more talk, we’ve decided to take Max to see the movie. Due to Christmas and the money spent on it, we’ll be waiting until after the first of the year. That will also give us time to finish reading the book with him. Thank you again for sharing your thoughts and encouragement with me.
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